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The Drink (Please help.)

#1 User is offline   Rachel Rose 

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Posted 17 December 2011 - 03:57 AM

There is something magical to me about being intoxicated. I type faster. Maybe not correctly, but certainly faster. I love drinking. I love beer. Good beer. Not that watered down shit some people drink. LITE BEER is an oxymoron. Anyway, I love drinking. I love feeling giddy with alcohol. I hate the stigma attached to alcoholism. Those people certainly do have cause to battle their demons, but if it wasn't so damn good, no one would drink to begin with.

BOOZE ROCKS. :D


(How inebriated is Rachel? Well...she had to grab the dictionary to make sure she spelled discuss correctly.) (Pedant.)


DISCUSS.

This post has been edited by GJ Rachel Rose: 18 December 2011 - 03:50 PM

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Posted 17 December 2011 - 12:29 PM

View PostGJ Rachel Rose, on 17 December 2011 - 03:57 AM, said:

I hate the stigma attached to alcoholism.



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Posted 17 December 2011 - 01:35 PM

View PostAu Joinee Rory, on 17 December 2011 - 12:29 PM, said:

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I don't know that face.

And I was mildly intoxicated when I posted.

And life goes on.

And my response would be more accurate if I knew what, exactly, you were trying to say.

This post has been edited by GJ Rachel Rose: 18 December 2011 - 02:57 PM

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Posted 17 December 2011 - 01:42 PM

Drinking is exceptional. I am in the unique position of being able to just switch my emotions off most of the time. Alcohol allows me to do it selectively, so that I can just keep the good ones! And then things get really #!$&ing awesome.
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Posted 17 December 2011 - 03:33 PM

Mulled cider currently being brewed in this house :)
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Posted 17 December 2011 - 07:48 PM

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Posted 17 December 2011 - 11:53 PM

*states the boringly obvious* too much alcohol = not good. especially as it's a depressant. if i ever get that horrible middle-of-the-night kind of existential angst, the one that really that eats away at you, you can bet that, when i think back i've had a drinky that evening.


also, i have never puked in my own underpants whilst asleep on the toilet :D
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Posted 18 December 2011 - 01:38 AM

Always do sober what you said you'd do drunk. That will teach you to keep your mouth shut.
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I feel sorry for people who don't drink, because when they wake up, that's the best they feel all day.
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Posted 18 December 2011 - 03:48 PM

Went to Tommy's Christmas office party last night. There was a young man who works for Thomas and the evening supervisor. I think he's brainy but deeply depressed. I don't know much about his past because he doesn't talk about it. He does start drinking the minute he arrives at about five p.m. and drinks through the evening growing more and more vocal with each minute. My heart is filled with nothing but compassion for him. He practically idolizes Thomas but hates, and I mean HATES, his evening supervisor. He was so drunk three hours in he was being taken into dark corners and reprimanded by his boss. He was trashing his shift, co-workers and boss. It was sad. I really like him. I took him for a walk and he expressed all this anger and disgust. And he praised Thomas. He said everyone hates him at work but Thomas. He gets teased all the time. It's a vicious cyycle. He is going to hit rock bottom soon. I don't want him to end up dead or in prison. (He's been in and out of jail so often they should have a cell just for him.) Thomas is at a loss. He is such a good person he has bailed the guy out of jail. And this man has repayed Tommy. But, I heard people teasing him during the night, complaining about him. My parents were both alcoholics. Drunk most of the time. Because of that I can't feel anger or embarrassment toward people who are what the general population refers to as Obnoxious Drunks.

But because of that I don't know what to do to help people like him. Will he just have to crash into the depths of his madness before he learns? He never remembers his actions the morning after.


His name is John.

Think of him when you have a moment.

Send him comforting, stop-doing-this-to-yourself hopeful thoughts.

And tell me what I can do to help him. Especially if you know someone who's been there.


Thanks.
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Posted 18 December 2011 - 03:56 PM

View PostJoinee Kate (SJJM), on 17 December 2011 - 11:53 PM, said:


too much alcohol = not good. especially as it's a depressant.



Does alcohol affect all people in the same manner? Are some folks more susceptible to its depressant influences?


I find it amazing that Biddle gets happier. I think he's the only person I have ever known to be that way.
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Posted 18 December 2011 - 04:54 PM

Sometimes I get happier, sometimes I get well depressed. Depends on how i'm feeling before I start drinking. if its a night out with the girls and nothing dramatic happens during the night then usually I can be found bouncing off the walls :)
I think its just enhances feelings that are already there so if your feeling down about something it will get worse.

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Posted 18 December 2011 - 05:10 PM

View PostGJ Rachel Rose, on 18 December 2011 - 03:56 PM, said:



I find it amazing that Biddle gets happier. I think he's the only person I have ever known to be that way.



A close friend of mine when he drinks just transforms into the life and soul of a party!, we all look out for him cause he doesnt do it by half measures! but when he does you really have no idea how your night will pan out!


regarding your friend, it really sounds like a case of drinking to escape. Change is pretty scary, but ultamatly a risk that needs taking if we're stuck in a situation that we dont like.
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Posted 18 December 2011 - 05:21 PM

I think Alcohol is a mood enhancer. This is why it affects people differently.
On the whole, if you are a happy person alcohol makes you feel good. If you are depressive it can make things worse. Obviously it's not as simple as that, but it does vary very much in it's effect according to how the person drinking is physically and mentally when they start drinking. Mum White x
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Posted 18 December 2011 - 07:01 PM

From http://kidshealth.or...l/alcohol.html#

(there are loads of other refs too but this seems to sum it up simply).

How Does It Affect the Body?
Alcohol is a depressant, which means it slows the function of the central nervous system. Alcohol actually blocks some of the messages trying to get to the brain. This alters a person's perceptions, emotions, movement, vision, and hearing.

In very small amounts, alcohol can help a person feel more relaxed or less anxious. More alcohol causes greater changes in the brain, resulting in intoxication. People who have overused alcohol may stagger, lose their coordination, and slur their speech. They will probably be confused and disoriented. Depending on the person, intoxication can make someone very friendly and talkative or very aggressive and angry. Reaction times are slowed dramatically — which is why people are told not to drink and drive. People who are intoxicated may think they're moving properly when they're not. They may act totally out of character.

When large amounts of alcohol are consumed in a short period of time, alcohol poisoning can result. Alcohol poisoning is exactly what it sounds like — the body has become poisoned by large amounts of alcohol. Violent vomiting is usually the first symptom of alcohol poisoning. Extreme sleepiness, unconsciousness, difficulty breathing, dangerously low blood sugar, seizures, and even death may result.


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Originally reviewed by: Eugene Shatz, MD

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Posted 18 December 2011 - 09:22 PM

View PostJoinee Kate (SJJM), on 17 December 2011 - 11:53 PM, said:

also, i have never puked in my own underpants whilst asleep on the toilet :D

You haven't lived.
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Posted 19 December 2011 - 12:45 AM

But I will. :D
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Posted 19 December 2011 - 08:41 AM

Bear in mind depressant is the action it performs, not the mood it puts you in!
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Posted 19 December 2011 - 12:31 PM

I'm a big big fan of the feeling of intoxication. I find it a lovely state to be in. I'm always a regular drinker but very rarely get to the point of being hammered. I hate that state with a passion. The loss of mental faculty and control frightens me.

I've also been an alcoholic at a small variety of points in my life and finding that your hands are trembling and being in a cold sweat until you've had your first couple of drinks of the day is not much fun. I do not recommend it.

All that said; as long as it's not out of hand and you're not overtly 'addicted' (by which I mean it's impairing your life in other areas) then I say don't stress about it too much. Relax, have a beer, enjoy yourself. Always drink some water before bed though!
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Posted 19 December 2011 - 12:34 PM

Thank you all for your thoughts. xoxo
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Posted 19 December 2011 - 12:54 PM

View PostGJ Rachel Rose, on 18 December 2011 - 03:56 PM, said:

I find it amazing that Biddle gets happier. I think he's the only person I have ever known to be that way.


I'm an absolutely ecstatic drunk.
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Posted 19 December 2011 - 03:56 PM

View PostGaz, on 19 December 2011 - 08:41 AM, said:

Bear in mind depressant is the action it performs, not the mood it puts you in!



Point taken :)
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