[Gold Joinee Cooke]

Those of you who read the back pages may be aware that Carlos Tevez, a footballer who takes part of my dole money (the bit wot goes on cheap city tickets) as a drop in the vast ocean of his £200k a week salary REFUSED TO BE SUBSTITUTED ONTO THE FIELD last night against Bayern Munich.

The Manager has said he'll never play for city again, but Carlos said "there was confusion on the bench and I think my position was misunderstood".

Now just for fun, let's imagine a scenario. You're a footballer on the substitutes bench during a match, and the manager signals to you. Do you think....

a) I wonder if the gaffer wants me to nip and put the kettle on ?

b) I wonder if the gaffer is starving and wants a pie/sossidge/some chips

c) I wonder if the gaffer wants me to stop the noisy non stop support I am giving my team mates ?

d) I wonder if the gaffer wants me to nip and put a bet on


These misunderstandings can happen so easily.

[Platinum Joinee Wilf (GD)]

e) I wonder of the gaffer wants me to join the supporters to gee them up?

[spannz15]

The bottom line about Tevez is he's getting paid 200,000 plus and refusing to play. I think I would play for Forest for nothing. I rest my case.
Same as Van Hooijdonk, who was also a prat. Showed a complete lack of professionalism and respect for the club and its fans.

[Joinee Hathorn]

You assemble a team of primadonnas, you shouldn't be surprised to find their toys on the floor every so often.

You sign 4 (or more) £20mil+ strikers and you think that if their wages are big enough they'll enjoy warming the bench and not consider your apparently whimsical selection strategy insulting?

The problem at Man City isn't Tevez, it's the current culture of the club. It's not fair on the loyal lifetime fans and it's not fair on other teams who can't sign good players because they are all rotting in the reserves at City. City need to sort out what they want the club culture to mean and then sort out how they are going to make it happen. It's probably just a transitional phase but as of now they just come across as nouveau riche, arrogant arse's. I'd prefer they use their resources to become a club to admire as I already despise Chelsea and Liverpool and could do without another premier league team to hate.

[Silver Joinee Rachel]

Joinee Hathorn, on 28 September 2011 - 07:44 PM, said:

You assemble a team of primadonnas, you shouldn't be surprised to find their toys on the floor every so often.

You sign 4 (or more) £20mil+ strikers and you think that if their wages are big enough they'll enjoy warming the bench and not consider your apparently whimsical selection strategy insulting?

The problem at Man City isn't Tevez, it's the current culture of the club. It's not fair on the loyal lifetime fans and it's not fair on other teams who can't sign good players because they are all rotting in the reserves at City. City need to sort out what they want the club culture to mean and then sort out how they are going to make it happen. It's probably just a transitional phase but as of now they just come across as nouveau riche, arrogant arse's. I'd prefer they use their resources to become a club to admire as I already despise Chelsea and Liverpool and could do without another premier league team to hate.

Absolute bollocks. How on earth is the current culture of the club not fair on lifetime fans??!?!?!?!

And what isn't fair on fans of other clubs is FFP rules which will mean no club outside of the top six will ever win the league or acheive champions league football (apart from maybe one fluke season).

How could city use their resources to become a club to admire? We have one of the biggest community projects run by any football club in the world, our corporate sponsors are even funding a new sixth form college in the local area.

Yes the petrodollars could have easily happened to a few other clubs, and I'm over the moon it happened to city, but any other fan would be over the moon of a similar thing happened to their team tomorrow.

City were everyone's second favourite team for most of my lifetime. And we were shite. I love being hated.





Edit: I would like to point out that that ^ was clearly written by me and I know loads about football. It is most certainly not the case that my fiancé should use his own laptop, or at least log out of my account and log himself in before posting. Honestly.

This post has been edited by Silver Joinee Rachel: 28 September 2011 - 08:22 PM

[spannz15]

I don't think its so much a problem with Man city, more a problem with football generally. No man is worth 200grand a week and 50mil plus in transfer fee's. The game has gone bonkers.

[Joinee Hathorn]

Gold Joinee Cooke, on 28 September 2011 - 08:08 PM, said:

Absolute bollocks. How on earth is the current culture of the club not fair on lifetime fans??!?!?!?!

There are fans, I have met them, who find the idea of buying success a little distasteful when it is achieved with apparent mercenaries... rather than players who want to be at the club for it's history. I appreciate that when you are buying such a large number of new players you will get a few bad eggs... but there have been more than a few.

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And what isn't fair on fans of other clubs is FFP rules which will mean no club outside of the top six will ever win the league or acheive champions league football (apart from maybe one fluke season).

This is a very very valid point. The new UEFA rules help, but a cap on wages is surely necessary?

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How could city use their resources to become a club to admire? We have one of the biggest community projects run by any football club in the world, our corporate sponsors are even funding a new sixth form college in the local area.

Community projects is an excellent way forward, I have to admit I didn't know of City's community input as the club doesn't seem to have promoted them in the wider press. Saying that I think they can do more, even hard up Everton have a massive community initiative and are also building a school... so with all those petrodollars I expect to see more than just a sixth form!

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Yes the petrodollars could have easily happened to a few other clubs, and I'm over the moon it happened to city, but any other fan would be over the moon of a similar thing happened to their team tomorrow.

You are probably right, however if I was given the option of success through hard work and small investments over a whole new squad of players who are there for the money rather than the best interests of the club then I'd take the success on smaller investments every single time.

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City were everyone's second favourite team for most of my lifetime. And we were shite. I love being hated.

They were what now? That's as mad a statement as Bob Champions Arsenal are everyones second favourite team. My second favourite team are Northampton Town... not a premier league club. In the Premier league there are only teams I hate less or teams I don't mind... no second favourites.

[Gold Joinee Cooke]

"everyone's second favourite team" is a phrase used to describe teams popular amongst fans of other clubs, not teams that are literally everyone's second favourite team.

Before we got all our cash our huge gates in the third tier of English football generated a lot of respect from other clubs fans, everyone seems to like teams they beat all the time

[Joinee Hathorn]

Gold Joinee Cooke, on 28 September 2011 - 09:35 PM, said:

"everyone's second favourite team" is a phrase used to describe teams popular amongst fans of other clubs, not teams that are literally everyone's second favourite team.

Before we got all our cash our huge gates in the third tier of English football generated a lot of respect from other clubs fans, everyone seems to like teams they beat all the time

Yes but you keep on winning now, that's no fun!

[Silver Joinee Rachel]

I do OCCASIONALLY miss six pointers against walsall, the moss rose as a local derby and getting beaten 4-1 by Lincoln City. Even in the premier league era i've been to belle vue and saltergate in the early rounds of the carling cup and walked out as a city defeat sparked a pitch invasion by the home fans, ah memories.

OH WAIT NO I TOTALLY LOVE PLAYING IN THE CHAMPIONS LEAGUE AND WINNING ALL THE TIME.

Petrodollars are ACE.

GJC
CTID

DAMMIT! Obviously this is rachel's better half typing.