[Platinum Joinee Wilf (GD)]

*puts on acting hat*

Man didn't land on the Moon! My Uncle's only Brother's only Son told me that NASA faked it all by filling in Dudley swimming baths with cement powder while nobody was looking and filmed it all there! And he knows, coz he was the NASA tea boy that gave Neil Armstrong his Astro-food!

*twitch*

*dribble*

*takes off acting hat*

I just don't get conspiracy theorists, particularly when it comes to the moon landings. It seems very depressing that these people seem to thing that the human race has never, and will never be capable of what is one of its greatest achivements. And don;t get me started on those who genuinely belive that the Earth is flat and that everyone has been lying to us for several hundred years.

But of course all those offering evidence that things happened the way they happended are "part of the system" and as such their evidence is discounted. It's weird. A whole point of view that insists that events unfolded in a particular way, without proof, and any clear evidence to the contrary must therefore be "them", misleading everyone again.

Genuine question: Has ANY conspiracy theory ever been proved? Watergate perhaps, but I suppose that wasn't a conspiracy "theory" to begin with?

I know for the most part that the whole thing is very silly and there are more important things to gripe about, but it's been making me Cranky today. Hence the above.

[Gaz]

Aah, this brings back memories of the old forum and the time Danny was doing Conspiracies on Sky. Specifically, the one about the Knights Templar where the bloke who claimed to be their best bud and who (unsurprisingly) completely failed to produce a meeting with them turned up on the forum and offered up a load of "evidence". As I recall, he more or less got to the point of asking me outside for a fight because I pointed out that articles you'd written that appear on a website and in a magazine you own aren't really evidence to back up your own argument!

Also: I found out the other day that one of the biggest conspiracy nutters around is the bloke out of The Corrs. So now there are two reasons to dislike him

Also also: anyone with Freesat should check out Richplanet.net. The guy is bonkers - literally EVERYTHING is a cover-up. Even this post*!

*it isn't.

[Joinee Snowberry]

I don't believe in them; but I do believe Dr David Kelly didn't commit suicide

[joinee_doug]

We had this one, too...

But I think that conspiracy theories will always be with us, as long as people can come up with even semi-plausible questions to the official version. There is still a sizeable number of people that believe that Barack Obama was born in Kenya and that he's a Muslim. There are people that question the explanation of JFK's assassination (personally, I think that one leaves a lot to be desired). Entertaining in a "what if?" way, but they generally just end up producing one-upmanship and very little of value. I do kind of wonder what would happen if some old general did pipe up and say, "Roswell? Yeah, we found a crashed saucer out there and four dead aliens. We cremated the aliens and sold the saucer for scrap - it became the guardrail out on Highway 47. Look, it landed on federal land, so it was technically the same as a vehicle accident. There wasn't any ID on the passengers and no registration on saucer, so we followed the book..."

[Golden Judas]

I liked the film. But that may be an untruth.

[HJCotW Spacemonkey]

Joinee Snowberry, on 07 September 2011 - 05:06 PM, said:

I don't believe in them; but I do believe Dr David Kelly didn't commit suicide

Yep, there's just so much that doesn't add up on that one.

Also, there was a rather high profile abduction case a couple of years ago, which, if you take the time to look into it, doesn't hang together at all. I'm convinced that not everything is as it seems there. I won't mention it by name, as they are, apparently, quite litigious, and look for people claiming that there is anything fishy about that case at all, but I'm sure you would have to be Mad not to figure it out. (Of course, the litigiousness may be a over exaggeration, but let's not risk it, eh?)

MoT
HJCotW

[Joinee Simitebrong]

Gaz, on 07 September 2011 - 03:51 PM, said:

literally EVERYTHING is a cover-up. Even this post*!

*it isn't.

Aha! If ever I saw a blatant lie to the masses. What are you really up to Gaz? Hmm? Giving you the benefit of the doubt; I bet MOSSAD hacked your account to edit your post and put that in there, or something.

I love conspiracy theories. Always so entertaining. 99.99999% are utter tosh, of course.

Buuut, there is plently of misinformation "leaked" from governments, often to combat credible details that have been genuinely leaked. There is also a great deal of favours-for-favours between politicians and journalists and when the security services get involved, we, as a public, don't have a clue if what gets to us is true or not.

I'm just generally in favour of not trusting any form of government I think that's very healthy

[Worm]

I really quite like Conspiracy Theories for their entertainment value. I love reading good solid debunking as well. Some of my favourites:

• JFK
• Moon Landing
• 9/11
• Barack Obama
• Expelled
• Chemtrails/Contrails
• Anything said by Alex Jones
• Anything said by David Icke

[Joinee Varwell]

And let's not forget "Paul is dead", the idea that Paul McCartney died and was replaced by a fake. If true, it's a bloody long act - let's hope the fake Paul is being paid handsomely.

[PJ Hannah B-R]

I hate conspiracy theories. They make me PROPERLY angry. But then I have a dumbass naive trust of the fact that if someone who is in charge of things has been paid to research and analyse things and says "this is what happened", then some bloke in the pub (Jamie) saying "oh, but you see the corners of the building explode, so it couldn't have been the plane" is just plain INSULTING to people who have studied very hard and are paid very handsomely to RESEARCH THIS KIND OF STUFF.

It's insulting.

[Lethal Biddle]

A friend of mine has a bloke living in the flat above her, called Elvis. She's never met him, but the exchange of neighbourly notes has revealed this much. There's no knowing if it's THAT Elvis, but it could be couldn't it? Or could it be? Yes. It could. Or could it? No... Yes? No? Yes.






















No.


Yes.

[joinee_doug]

There's a guy works down the chip shop swears he's Elvis, but he's a liar and I'm not sure about you

[joinee_doug]

Joinee Varwell, on 08 September 2011 - 02:31 PM, said:

And let's not forget "Paul is dead", the idea that Paul McCartney died and was replaced by a fake. If true, it's a bloody long act - let's hope the fake Paul is being paid handsomely.

But you notice he never goes by his real name, James Paul McCartney. I know he's a fake because once I saw him in a crowd across the street, so I yelled to him, "James! James! James! James! Jim! Jim! Jim! Jim! Jimbo! Jimbo! Jimbo! Jimbo! Jimmy! Jimmy! Jimmy! Jimmy!" and he had to act like he didn't know me.

[Rachel Rose]

I know I love Simitebrong. No secret plotting whatsoever involved in this feeling.


Biddle embellishes. He paints with a grandiose brush of abstract colors. And he may or may not tell falsehoods. I don't know the man. These are merely my perceptions gleaned from his posts, Doug. And that is the absolute truth.

[Lethal Biddle]

GJ Rachel Rose, on 08 September 2011 - 05:44 PM, said:

Biddle embellishes. He paints with a grandiose brush of abstract colors.

Funnily enough The "grandiose brush of abstract colours" is what I've named my penis...

[joinee_doug]

It's really too bad we don't hear that much about the Tri-Lateral Commission (TLC) anymore. They had a cool insignia and everything.



I did not edit this.

This post has been edited by joinee_doug: 09 September 2011 - 01:50 AM

[Timothy Goose]

Lethal Biddle, on 09 September 2011 - 12:48 AM, said:

Funnily enough The "grandiose brush of abstract colours" is what I've named my penis...

Funnily enough Elliot does paint with his penis


there is a gallery show of his work next Wednesday

[Gaz]

I'm not sure having them paraded as exhibit A and exhibit B in court counts as a gallery show, Tim

[Rachel Rose]

Biddlington and Gaz :


/ twisted sense of humor leading to dreadful threadjack*



* some of this post may not be available in most media.




p.s. I thought the existence of arty penises was merely gossip.

[Joinee Simitebrong]

Artie Penis

Fabulous clarinet player and band leader, best remembered for his hit; 'I Can't Get Started' before his career ground to halt owing to repeated bouts of stagefright

[HRH Gold Joinee Sheli]

Well, this thread has taken a fabulous turn!

[Lethal Biddle]

HRH Gold Joinee Sheli, on 11 September 2011 - 04:29 PM, said:

Well, this thread has taken a fabulous turn!

You'll never guess what else takes a fabulous turn...

[Joinee Kate (SJJM)]

Oh, I think she will.

In fact, I think we all will.

But I demand photographic evidence.

Otherwise, we might all think it's just a, y'know, conspiracy...

This post has been edited by Joinee Kate (SJJM): 12 September 2011 - 07:33 PM

[Lethal Biddle]

Joinee Kate (SJJM), on 12 September 2011 - 07:30 PM, said:

Oh, I think she will.

In fact, I think we all will.

But I demand photographic evidence.

Otherwise, we might all think it's just a, y'know, conspiracy...

OK!

Photographic evidence!